Want to try Fireline

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on Aug 14, 2008 7:18 AM

I really like Beadalon's WildFire. First of all, it's made for beaders. (Berkley really never cared that we used their product for jewelry, from what I can tell.) Secondly, the WildFire black line is a MUCH better color, consistently a rich black. I always had issues with the varying degrees of the "smoke" color of FL. I still use the flame green FL color which suits my palette, but the WildFire green is fabulously neutral. I'm suprised how many colors it blends with.

I think bead shops will be starting to carry more WildFire soon.

 

 

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chilanzar9 wrote
on Aug 18, 2008 9:39 AM

 Fireline or PowerPro are braided or fused (NOT monofilament!!!) fishing line. They are sold at Walmart in the sports department where fishing line is sold. I am trying FireLine 10 Lb weight rating in Smoke Grey - that easily goes through #12 beading needle. The colors they have are limited, the most useful I found is Smoke Grey (dark grey) and Crystalline (white-ish). Other colors they have seem to be in green or blue family. I do not have any problem even going through #15 seed beads with 10-lb rated Fireline.  The line is more stiff than beading thread, but it does not stretch and does not split or abrade as easily at all. It does not need waxing. I am using it for off-loom seed bead applications. The downside is the price - 125 yards spool is something between $13-15.

I also bought some 8Lb Fireline, it's a little thinner so should work even better - yet to try it. They also carry PowerPro which is similar concept, but the line seems more flexible.  However they only have it in Mos Green in all local Wal-Marts.

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BillieS@4 wrote
on Aug 18, 2008 1:37 PM

 I use 6-8 lb. Fireline in Crystal and Smoke for everything I do that is woven. I wouldn't use anything else.

 

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Billy Z wrote
on Aug 18, 2008 2:32 PM

 How about the "invisible" Spiderwire. It's 10lb looks(to my eyes anyway) to be about half the diameter of Fireline's Smoke 6lb version in the fishing department. Now the color difference could have had some bearing on the way it appeared to be. I've never used any of it before, but i am trying to learn some more about beadweaving and threads just do NOT cut it for me as I have a skin condition that causes some peeling in which thread always gets caught on and starts shreading. I'm trying to find something that won't have this problem and these seem to be an answer to prayers when I need somehtign of a much smaller diameter than the standared 19-21 stranded wires that I normally use. The Spiderwire packaging had an actual diameter in inches and mm's under the test size on the label but the Fireline did not, so I couldn't compare actual numbers ya know. Both look like monfil to me, but my eyes are starting to go a bit and that stuff is some kind of TINY. I was going to pick up a spool of each until I saw the shelf tags, then I put both back until I could find out more info on either one or both. So I am appreciative of the info if no one else is.

 Billy ;o)

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on Aug 19, 2008 1:26 AM

For whatever it's worth, I bought my Spiderwire at Walmart and it was way cheaper than Fireline (but I bought it about 4 years ago).  I use the 6lb clear for darn near everything but I have 12lb for extra heavy duty things.  12lb won't fit through regular beading needles though, nor could you make multiple passes through smaller beads.  If you're weaving with it you'd want either a big eye or a twisted wire needle.  Otherwire you could just string straight onto the line.  I also like it because it is actually clear, and it disappears into whatever project I'm making.

 

 

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Billy Z wrote
on Aug 19, 2008 3:55 AM

 The Spiderwire was like $13.97 for a spool of like 350 yards(if I am remembering correctly) and the Fireline was $14.97 for 250 yards. That was the reasoning behind not grabbing one of each and trying it. I'm no Scrooge by any stretch, but I am frugal(wife says cheap *laughz*) and refused to pay $30.00 in fishing supplies and I don't even fish.

 I have a spool of some sort of braided fishing line that is like 200lb test that Ihave had for awhile but the Coats and Clarks Outdoor Upholstery(protected against fresh and salt water and it highly UV resistant) thread seems to be just as strong, much smaller in diameter, and way cheap. It was like $4.00 for a mid-sized spool(bigger than the 'normal' sized wooden spools, but like around half the size of the coned spools. It comes in black, white, light brown, dark brown, dark green and an olive shade of green as well. There may be more colors, but that is all that our Wal Mart sells. I know that I am not the strongest guy in the world anymore, but I can NOT break the C&C thread with my bare hands. I can't breakthe fishing line eiher, but it is like 5 or 6 time the diameter of the thread soI stopped using it entirely. I used to use it on heavier pieces, but since I discovered beading wire, I haven't needed it at all.

 I finally found some of those long big-eyed needles at A.C. Moore's(used to be Ben Franklin's) on Sunday when we went to the beach. I don't think that I will break these like the others that I have been using. You can bend these suckers almost in half and they go back straight. I had to make sure that they wouldn't break on me ya know. *laughz*

 Thanks for the opinion Jeni, I really do appreciate it. You have pretty much made up my mind for me about the Spiderwire. I have never used any of these monofils at all and no virtually nothing about them. Thanks again.

 Billy ;o)

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chilanzar9 wrote
on Aug 19, 2008 7:24 AM

Was it Spiderwire monofilament or braided/fused? I saw Spiderwire at Walmart but 6 Lb looked like monofilament to me and I am not usre you can get monofilament through #12 needle.  They had some braided Spiderwire but it said "20Lbs" on it  so I figured it will be to thick, and it was green or blue. Maybe I need to look in other sporting goods stores....

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Leana@3 wrote
on Aug 19, 2008 7:48 AM

 I 100% agree with Billie S.! I use both those colors only...according to what color beads I am using. Have had nothing but terrific results using fireline.Wink

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Mortira wrote
on Aug 20, 2008 4:22 PM

Alastar Dragonfly:

 The Spiderwire was like $13.97 for a spool of like 350 yards(if I am remembering correctly) and the Fireline was $14.97 for 250 yards. That was the reasoning behind not grabbing one of each and trying it. I'm no Scrooge by any stretch, but I am frugal(wife says cheap *laughz*) and refused to pay $30.00 in fishing supplies and I don't even fish.

 

LOL!  How's this to make your wallet shudder? :

I work in a sporting goods store, and get all of my Fireline at cost.  Even with that discount, I still pay $19.50 CND for 125 yards!  When I saw what US prices were, my jaw literally dropped.  It was the first time I ever raised my eyebrows at US/Canada price differences.  Usually I defend our retailers and wholesalers tooth and nail. 

Anyway, if you only want to try fishing line, you could check a fishing or tackle shop to see if they carry it in bulk.  They can sell you a few yards for a fraction of the price.  They might even give it to you for free, since a yard works out to be less than a dollar.  Wink Don't ask for a freebie though, that's annoying. Wink

 

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on Aug 21, 2008 12:10 AM

I'm pretty sure mine is monofilament.  If it's braided I sure can't see it.  The 6lb will fit through a #10 needle if you flatten the end with pliers first, but not a #12.  That said, I can still get several passes through Delica beads and some seed beads with no problems.

 

 

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Mortira wrote
on Aug 21, 2008 4:56 PM

Jsmaz:

I'm pretty sure mine is monofilament.  If it's braided I sure can't see it.  The 6lb will fit through a #10 needle if you flatten the end with pliers first, but not a #12.  .

 

 

Monofilament is a single strand of clear, smooth plastic.  If you have Fireline (or Spiderwire, etc.) it will be a solid-looking strand.  Although you can't see the braiding in the smaller diameters, you can feel some texture when you pull the thread through your fingers.  The other way to tell the difference is that braided line acts just like sewing thread - it knots, bends, drapes, etc.  Monofilament is much stiffer and resists being shaped, so it's usually not suitable for seed bead stitching.  If you can stitch with the material you have, it's probably not mono - it has a much thicker diameter than Fireline.

If you want to be totally sure, you could head to the fishing department and compare products.

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lbpleitner wrote
on Aug 10, 2011 9:21 PM

be careful what you ask for. the first time i asked for an 8lb fireline to do a braclet i didn't realize what i was looking for. it was my first time beading after 25 years of doing crosstitching.  i could not thread the #12 needle nor could i go thru the size 15 seed beads that it called for. after going to a tackle shop with a friend of mine i stopped by to look at the line there.  hmmmmm  the bead shop i went to sold me the wrong size. they gave me 20 lb line that is an 8lb test diameter which is waaaayyy to big compared to the 8 lb test line in the tackle shop. i bought it and had no trouble threading the needle nor going thru the little #15 seed beads. a beautiful braclet was made after all.

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JudyB@98 wrote
on Nov 9, 2011 1:10 PM

I have read that fishing Fireline and beading Fireline are the same.  I have read that fishing Fireline and beading Fireline are different.  Can anyone tell me what to believe?  I think I will visit the Beadsmith website (fore beading Fireline info) and also the (fishing) Fireline website, and just ask those people!

 

When I read beading directions in magazines and online, they often say "use Fireline," but not what kind, gauge, etc.  That would sure be helpful, also!

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D.M.Z wrote
on Nov 9, 2011 1:49 PM

Judy, if it is Fireline it is Fireline..............I buy mine from FishUSA because I use larger quantities than my local bead store carries. The order guys from FishUSA are very used to beaders calling in to order. The first time I called I admitted I was using it for beading and the very nice fellow said "oh yes, all my orders today on the phone were from beaders"..............

Generally I use 6# for warping my looms, and for beading with delicas...........works perfect. I did buy some 8# and I am making color swatches out of it as it is tough stuff (but still goes through delicas for the peyote stitched swatches. I have some 4# and it would seem to be fine for 15's in seed beads (I use Toho and Miyuki seed beads, not Czech or Chinese so no experience with the holes in those). I also got nutty and bought a spool of the neon green and it does show a tiny bit on a herringbone spiral and a bit through some transparent crystals at the clasp end of a bracelet. Silly, but I like it.

Fireline from Beadsmith, is just relabeled. The manufacturer would not let someone use the copyrighted name Fireline for another product. Donna

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SCB1 wrote
on Nov 9, 2011 2:23 PM

Judy,

Donna is correct when she says that Fireline is Fireline. About 2-3 years ago I contacted Berkley, the makers of Fireline, I asked if there was a difference between the one that you get to fish with and the one that Beadsmith has their name on. Their answer was that both were exactly the same, that the only difference is that, the one at the bead stores bears the name of Beadsmith along with Berkley. 

There you have it out of the fishes mouth, excuse the pun!

Happy Beading!!!

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Sue,

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Michigan.

 

 

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